Episode 199 : Out of Order – Shira Butler

This is the story of a beautiful family assembled out of order: dog, daughter, dad. It's the story of planning years ahead to become a mom, and wishing she’d started years earlier. It's the story of the unexpected that arrives in every form from love (like a husband) to terror (like medical issues), and the life-changing decisions that accompany any rocky road through fertility.

It was after their second date that Shira told her now husband she was probably pregnant. She conceived her daughter as a single mom by choice using donor sperm, most of her savings, and so much time, energy and effort. Just as she finally succeeded in getting pregnant, she met him. It turns out families don't have to be assembled in order.

Shira is a product, commercial and operations leader with deep experience launching and scaling tech-enabled healthcare. She has worked across various clinical specialties, partnering closely with health plans, employers, health systems and government.

Shira is currently at Lin Health, which specializes in treating chronic pain. Shira loves leading people, helping patients, and designing technology to solve problems. Shira was previously the General Manager of Behavioral Health and Musculoskeletal care at Eden Health. Before that at Omada Health, she led creation of product lines for diabetes, hypertension and behavioral health, as well as spearheading Omada’s work with national insurance carriers, the American Medical Association, and the federal government’s healthcare innovation team.

Shira is passionate about writing and speaking on the future of integrating technology into healthcare, as well as insights about culture and life choices from her time working and living around the world. Her greatest passion at work is supporting her team members in growth and development, and fostering the culture and organizational structures that lead to high productivity and work-life balance. Shira’s greatest joy is this family she built out of order: her young daughter, her loving husband, and her ever-hopeful dog. She is a community builder, outdoor enthusiast and world traveler. Shira has lived across the US, Europe and Africa and now loves hiking, biking and paddling near her home near Boulder, Colorado.

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Episode 198 : Save Money on Surrogacy – Yifat Shaltiel Esq.

Yifat Shaltiel, Esq. is Author of “Save Money on Surrogacy” and has 16+ years of experience practicing surrogacy and assisted reproductive technology law and providing surrogacy coaching. She is CEO and Founder of Surrogate Steps, a surrogacy agency, helping families grow for over ten years. As one of the chairs of the Reproductive Health Law Committee for the Women’s Bar Association of the state of New York, Yifat testified on surrogacy matters in the New York State Legislature and participated as speaker at various venues, including the United Nations Commission on the Status of Women. She has been featured as a surrogacy law specialist at numerous venues including Cornell Law School and news media outlets such as MSNBC. In addition to her book, she published many articles on reproductive law and surrogacy, and taught CLE classes regarding surrogacy to other attorneys and judges.

Yifat Shaltiel, Esq. was introduced to the world of surrogacy and infertility through her own infertility journey. She has made it her mission to help others grow their families through surrogacy and assisted reproductive technology and hopes that the information in this book, about how to save money in a surrogacy journey, will help more individuals afford surrogacy and successfully become parents.

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Episode 197 : Carried With Love – Ariel Taylor

Ariel is a Registered Social Worker (RSW) and Psychotherapist who has been involved in the surrogacy and fertility community since 2015 and has guided countless couples and individuals on their journey to parenthood. 

After her own complicated miscarriage as a surrogate in 2016, Ariel discovered that there was very little specialized counselling for her painful situation and realized a much larger need for mental health professionals that deeply understand the fertility world. 

 Ariel returned to school in 2018 and graduated from Western University in 2021. She opened Carried with Love (CWL) to provide 100% virtual support for those struggling with infertility, loss, pregnancy challenges or postpartum mood disorders. Since opening, CWL has continued to grow and now provides a wide range of therapeutic services and most recently has launched Canada’s first Independent Surrogacy Program. 

Ariel has carried 5 babies as a gestational surrogate which resulted in 4 live births – the most recent in the summer of 2023. Although Ariel is now retired as a surrogate, she continues to be an active presence in the fertility community and leverages her strong social media following to normalize all roads to parenthood for women and couples around the world. 

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Episode 196 : Unstoppable – Ellen Casey

Ellen Weir Casey is the mother of one of the world's first IVF babies. Her daughter is known as "Colorado’s First Test Tube Baby." Her award-winning memoir, Unstoppable: Forging The Path To Motherhood in The Early Days Of IVF, is the first person account of a patient in the earliest days of Assisted Reproductive Technology. Ellen is a passionate advocate for unrestricted access to women’s health care. She speaks nationally and internationally bringing attention to the importance of establishing permanent access to IVF.

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Episode 195 : Hatchlings - Angela Hartshorn

Angela worked in the fertility domain for over 30 years. She has extensive experience working with fertility centers all over the world. She also has clinical experience, having worked directly with more than a dozen Reproductive Endocrinologists at five different fertility centers. Her mix of personal and professional experience has given Angela the skills to be a special advocate for those in the fertility realm. She is known for maintaining exceptional standards when assisting those in need. More importantly, Angela is equipped by experience with the tools to help others complete their families via third party fertility treatments. She smoothly coordinates with a variety of stakeholders, including patients, families, caregivers, and global partner networks. If you are in any of these roles, you’ll find Angela to be a professional, intelligent, and extremely capable partner and advocate.

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Episode 193 : Fighting Surrogacy Insurance Discrimination – Jason, Tim, and Kim

Listen as Jason, Tim, and Kim share with Ellen and Jenn:

 ·      Jason’s personal surrogacy journey, including the highs of matching with an amazing surrogate and finding out they were having twins!

·      Jason’s less exciting surrogacy journey parts, including purchasing a health insurance policy for the surrogate, paying premiums and all uncovered expenses, and then still being subject to a five figure “lien”.

·      The discriminatory nature of liens. Being double punished for not being able to carry a pregnancy on their own.

·      Tim explains the contractual and statutory legal bases insurance companies use to support liens, and why they are problematic.

·      Kim’s experience in Nevada fighting for better laws, including surrogacy inclusion for all Nevada-governed health insurance policies, and no liens!

·      Starting the Insurance Access and Equity Alliance to fight insurance discrimination in California and beyond.

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Episode 190 : Navigating Surrogacy Challenges Together – Leslie and Melissa

With over 30 years of dedication to pilates and dance, Leslie Lopez teaches privately to clients as well as to toddlers with creative holiday themed movement classes. She is an advocate for the arts and has served as a Board member for The Wallis Performing Arts Center and the California State Summer School for the Arts.

In addition she worked for 20 years in hospitality and customer relations, working front of house for 3 star Michelin Chefs such as Daniel Boulud and Thomas Keller.

She is launching her podcast Mother's in Arms this Summer 2024 which focuses on her. experience as an intended parent who went through a surrogacy journey independently.

Her podcast description: An independent parent by choice, Leslie went through an isolated surrogate journey in 2020. This episode is a conversation between surrogate mother Melissa and. Leslie as to the ups and downs the journey of bringing Elyse to the world.

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Episode 189 : DNA Private Investigator - Rachele' Davis

Rachele’ Davis, a former crime analyst for her local police department, founded New Hope Investigations in 2016. After seven years in civil service and seven years prior to that as an educator, Rachele’ found herself drawn to the private sector of investigations and the challenge of building her own business. Her master’s degree in criminal justice, resourcefulness, productivity level, and innovation have already served her well in this capacity.

Rachele’ obtained her private investigator license through Missouri in 2016. Rachele’s specialty areas include connection biological families and adoptive children, diligent adoption searches, and people searches. Rachele' also provides some general investigative services on a case-by-case basis. She works in various capacities for individuals, attorneys, and businesses. Rachele' regularly stays up-to-date with current trends and changes in the industry.

To enhance her unknown parentage investigations, Rachele’ continues to learn more and more about the complex and fascinating field of genealogy. She is a member of Association of Professional Genealogists, International Society of Genetic Genealogy, and National Genealogical Society.

Listen as Rachele’ discusses with Ellen and Jenn:

 

·      Adopting her son and wanting to continue in criminal justice, but with more flexibility to parent.

·      The adoption was not an easy path and included the need to hire a private investigator.

·      Starting out wanting to help adoptees who wanted to identify biological family members, and expending to other genetic searches. 

·      Making those first contact calls.

·      The law in the birth state making a significant difference as to original birth certificate access.

·      Sometimes timing is everything

·      Advice to those considering a search.

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Episode 188 : Insurance Puns and Problems - Sarah Paige

Sarah Paige has been a professional in the ART (Assisted Reproductive Technology) insurance field since 2010.  As Chief Operating Officer of ART Risk Financial and Insurance Solutions, Inc., and a licensed insurance agent, she remains current on all insurance issues pertinent to the ART field and works to find the best solutions for the ART Risk Solutions clients embarking on surrogacy journeys.  With her extensive breadth of knowledge and expertise in the ART community, Sarah is a frequently sought after speaker.  One of Ms. Paige’s professional accomplishments was serving as an expert witness for Nevada State Assembly Bill AB472 alongside its Author, Kimberly Surratt, in the 2019 legislature with Nevada accepting and placing into law inclusive insurance language for surrogacy coverage.

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Episode 187 : Freeze Drying Breastmilk - Tirza Jova

Tirza Jova, the founder of Milk by Mom in Phoenix, AZ, empowers breastfeeding mothers through her innovative breast milk freeze drying service available nationwide. With an MBA and 17 years in international business, she’s modernizing breastfeeding practices. Tirza’s mission extends beyond local borders, educating nationwide on the advantages of freeze dried breast milk and the freedom and flexibility freeze-drying provides while maintaining the benefits and security of breast milk.

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Episode 186 : Surrogacy in Georgia (the Country) - Rachel Wilson

Rachel is the owner of Adi Shakti Yoga; Therapy located in Longmont, Colorado. She has been practicing psychotherapy since 2014 and has 10 years of experience offering compassionate supportive counseling. She is a registered yoga & meditation teacher and has led women's groups and retreats.

Having been a single parent, as well as raised children in a blended family, she is now the mother of a young son born in the country of Georgia thanks to a surrogate mother and an egg donor. Through her psychotherapy practice called Nurture Yourself, Nurture Your Child, she is available to work with mothers, intended mothers, aspiring mothers, grandmothers, and any woman wishing to heal their inner child. She uses somatic practices, parenting approaches, attachment theory, and many other tools to help you find perspective on the broad spectrum of parenting possibilities as you learn to heal your own childhood and nurture yourself, your children, your relationships, and your work in the world. She is especially interested in helping other intended parents on the challenging and exciting journey of surrogacy.

Listen as Rachel discusses with Ellen and Jenn:

  • Entering a second marriage in her mid-40s and very much wanting a child together.

  • Struggling with monthly disappointments.

  • Receiving an inheritance that allowed for the discussion of surrogacy.

  • Having reconnected with a half-sister, exploring the possibility of her donating her eggs.

  • Her husband having a long-time interest in Georgia, they were intrigued to learn that

  • surrogacy was legal and supported in the country.

  • Facing fears related to war in the region; but increasing her resolve after connecting and

  • raising money for a non-profit.

  • Enduring the ups and downs of an international surrogacy journey.

Check out Rachel’s Substack: https://rachelrwilson.substack.com/

Learn more about Kundalini Yoga for Recovery: https://www.ky12step.com/nurture

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Episode 185 : The Unexpected Caretaker – Melissa Woodle

During the height of Covid, Melissa had the opportunity to take care of a baby born through surrogacy to a Chinese Intended Father. What was supposed to be a five week role turned into a nearly six month adventure of a lifetime and led to a deeply meaningful relationship between two families across the globe. It's a beautiful story of how the gift of surrogacy makes THE most amazing families and changes (so many) lives for the better.

With over 20 years of experience in marketing & business development, across the US and internationally, Melissa began her professional journey in Assisted Reproductive Technology as Events & Operations Director for Men Having Babies, the international nonprofit organization dedicated to providing its members and prospective parents with education and financial support throughout their surrogacy journeys. While at MHB, she had the extraordinary honor to produce conferences all over the world, inviting thousands of intended parents and leading service providers in the field to gather for educational forums and community building, concentrated on surrogacy and ART opportunities.

Melissa has also served as Director of Marketing and Business Development for several international surrogacy programs, focusing on growing the outreach program for qualified surrogates and donors by developing broad-scale events and marketing programs, as well as building strong relationships with partnering fertility clinics and ART professionals around the world.

Four years ago Melissa founded a full service creative agency helping businesses develop and deliver their brand promises.

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Episode 184 : Wellness and Surrogacy – Cynthia

Cynthia has her Master's in Social Work and her MBA. She is an independent health and wellness coach, corporate presenter, and trainer. Her corporate presentations cover a variety of wellness topics including sleep strategies, the impact of alcohol on the body, menopause, meditation, stress management, healthy eating, resilience, and more. She also is certified in Infinite Possibilities and is a presenter and a coach. For the past four years she has worked at Organizational Wellness & Learning Systems delivering trainings on stress management, resilience, burn out, and other mental health topics faced by employees. Cynthia is an IVF Support Group Peer Leader. She has been a volunteer for the Worksite Wellness Council of Massachusetts for the past four years helping to set up presentation on employee wellness. Cynthia has two children born through infertility and her second child was brought into the world with the help of a Gestational Surrogate.

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Episode 183 : Aligneage Fertility – Justine Witzke, PhD, MPH

Justine Witzke is the founder and CEO of Aligneage Fertility. Justine is an experienced strategist and operator having served in a variety of roles, including as head of clinical operations, at Weill Cornell Medicine’s Center for Reproductive Medicine. She is particularly proud of her work developing their fertility preservation program, expanding services to LGBTQ communities, and managing the department’s COVID-19 response, all of which required creative pragmatism. An expert generalist, Justine is passionate about sharing knowledge and information; she cares deeply about educating patients, colleagues, and the public. With interests in medical ethics, patient satisfaction, program development, and risk management, Justine is well-equipped to contribute as an advocate and thought leader in fertility. Additionally, she is a co-founder and the President of CP Extension, a non-profit organization aimed at supporting families of individuals with cerebral palsy.

A graduate of the University of Florida, Justine received a Master’s in Public Health from Hunter College with a focus on Community Health Education and a PhD in Clinical and Translational Research from the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai. Her dissertation was titled “Impact of Commercial Donor Sperm Preparation on Intrauterine Insemination Outcome.”

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Episode 182: Men’s Helpline – Daniel Landau and Steven Miller, MS

Daniel Landau is the founder and executive director of Men’s Helpline, moderator of the MenTalk virtual peer support group, and host of the MenTalk podcast. A seasoned fundraiser and sales leader, Daniel has spent his career designing and implementing successful development and marketing strategies for mission-driven non-profits. Having experienced a pregnancy loss firsthand while he and his wife underwent IVF, Daniel created Men’s Helpline to help fill the critical gap in resources geared toward supporting men as they navigate infertility and pregnancy loss.

Steven J. Miller, a repeat guest on the podcast, obtained his Bachelor’s and Master’s Degrees in Psychology at Northern Michigan University. He is currently in the part-time MSW program at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. Steven is an advocate for discussion among social workers about the impact of infertility on one’s mental health. Steven and his wife had struggled with infertility before being successful using In Vitro Fertilization, resulting in now almost five-year-old twin boys. Steven started his own podcast called MILES highlighting the male experience of infertility and family building. He joined Men’s Helpline as a board member in 2023. Men’s Helpline is a nonprofit whose mission is to provide emotional support to all men who struggle with miscarriage, and infertility. After his MSW, Steven plans to become a LCSW and specialize in Reproductive Mental Health and continue work with the nonprofit.

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Episode 181: Infertilities, A Curation – Elizabeth Horn, Maria Novotny, and Robin Silbergleid

Elizabeth Horn is a health care communicator and the cofounder and codirector of The ART of Infertility, for which she has curated more than thirty exhibits since its inception in 2014. The ART of Infertility was the 2018 recipient of the Hope Award for Innovation given by RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association for its work communicating patient experiences through arts programming. Horn lives with her family in Ann Arbor, MI.

Maria Novotny is an Assistant Professor of English at UW-Milwaukee. Her research considers how reproductive health patients advocate for care. Invested in community issues related to infertility, she co-edited the anthology Infertilities, A Curation (published by WSUP) which puts into practice “story as theory” by featuring visual and written narratives from over 60 contributors – each of whom self-identify as infertile. Other scholarship related to her community-engaged research and teaching has been published in the Community Literacy Journal, Reflections, Rhetoric Review, Rhetoric of Health and Medicine, TCQ and more. For the last 10 years, she has co-directed The ART of Infertility.

 Robin Silbergleid is a poet and nonfiction writer; She is the author of several books that are centrally concerned with infertility and recurrent reproductive loss, as well as single motherhood. Her current research project is a monograph tentatively titled Queer Mother Memoirs: Experiments in Life/Narrative that offers a hybrid critical-creative analysis of contemporary memoirs by and about queer mothers.  Born and raised in Illinois, she holds both a PhD in English and an MFA in Creative Writing from Indiana University. She is currently a professor of English and associate chair for undergraduate studies at Michigan State University. She lives in East Lansing, Michigan.

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Episode 180: Carrying Dreams – Emily Westerfield

Emily Westerfield is a surrogacy expert, passionate surrogacy advocate, and a five-time gestational carrier. As one of the Co-Founders and Gestational Carrier Program Director, Emily has helped hundreds of intended parents and surrogates throughout their journeys.

Emily is well-versed in the core processes and complexities along with the array of emotions associated with surrogacy. Her experiences have allowed her to share personal knowledge and expertise in consultations and the facilitation of journeys for both intended parents and surrogates, consistently setting them up for success.

During her illustrious career, Emily has partnered with specialists including obstetricians, gynecologists, urologists, and reproductive endocrinologists along with community hospitals around the northeast to grow awareness of surrogacy. Her strategic collaboration with Nir Keren birthed the launch of Carrying Dreams Surrogacy – an agency committed to providing comprehensive and unique experiences for intended parents and gestational carriers alike.

Emily is an ardent contributor to women’s health and development, bringing light and education around women’s fertility and surrogacy. Her work can be found featured in Women magazines and online news outlets including Women's Health, Today.com, Bustle, Thrive Global and Authority, among others.

She’s married to her supportive husband Max, the happy mother of three beautiful children and also an active gestational carrier having had the pleasure of bringing both singletons and multiples to couples and families across the country.

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